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Mike Mullane - Normalisation of deviance - IAFF - Part 1

Stuart Walker · talk · Watch on YouTube

What it is

Astronaut Mike Mullane explains normalisation of deviance, where teams gradually come to accept violations of their own safety standards. He uses the Challenger shuttle disaster as the main case, drawing on NASA's ignored warnings before the launch. It is the first part of a talk given to a fire-fighters' association.

Why Hacker News recommends it

HN commenters cite it whenever a thread involves ignored warnings, shortcuts or routine risk, as the clearest introduction to the concept.

  • 4 people recommended it
  • 4 different months
  • 1 strong recommendations
  • first 2018, last 2022

What HN commenters said

  1. “Here is an excellent talk on this subject”

    Excellent talk worth rewatching

    christophilus, 2019-02 · Strong recommendation · in “Normalization of Deviance”

  2. “He describes how the Challenger shuttle disaster happened despite internal memos about the problem years prior.”

    Talk on how teams learn to ignore their own standards

    Sidnicious, 2018-05 · Recommendation · in “Internal Documents Show Apple Knew the iPhone 6 Would Bend”

  3. “would recommand the Mike Mullane's talk on the Challenger disaster”

    Mullane on the Challenger disaster

    y04nn, 2021-07 · Recommendation · in “The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan”

  4. “this great video about”

    Preventable mistakes and routine checklists

    slackerlol, 2022-07 · Recommendation · in “Keep calm and use the runbook”

Excerpts from Hacker News comments, linked to the originals. Summaries and labels were written by a language model from those comments.

Topics: challenger disaster, safety culture, risk, nasa, organizational failure

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